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Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)
Heavy Metal
6%
 6% [ 1 ]
Thrash Metal
19%
 19% [ 3 ]
Death Metal
6%
 6% [ 1 ]
Black Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Doom Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Nu-Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Rap Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Melodeath Metal
19%
 19% [ 3 ]
Progressive Metal
25%
 25% [ 4 ]
Alternative Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Viking Metal
6%
 6% [ 1 ]
Folk Metal
6%
 6% [ 1 ]
Pagan Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Christian Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Speed Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Metalcore
6%
 6% [ 1 ]
Grindcore
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Sludge Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Industrial Metal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Neo-Classical Metal
6%
 6% [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 16
 

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PostSubject: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:05 pm

Ok, so... Here's the question... What is your favourite metal genre??? I know there was another poll on that, but I decided to remove Power Metal...

My vote go to Thrash Metal...

Heavy Metal - Black Sabbath
Thrash Metal - Slayer
Death Metal - Death
Black Metal - Darkthrone
Doom Metal - Solstice
Nu-Metal - Slipknot
Rap Metal - Rage Against The Machine
Melodeath Metal - Children Of Bodom
Progressive Metal - Dream Theater
Alternative Metal - System Of A Down
Viking Metal - [Theme] Metalhead123 was right
Folk Metal - Finntroll
Pagan Metal - [Theme]
Christian Metal - [Theme]
Speed Metal - Megadeth [Thrash-Speed]
Metalcore - All That Remains
Grindcore - Napalm Death
Sludge Metal - Mastodon
Industrial Metal - Marilyn Manson
Neo-Classical Metal - Yngwie Malsmsteen


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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:59 pm

Thrash is my alltime favorite genre but my top 5 is mainly heavy. If anyone votes grindcore................ Evil or Very Mad I might have to kill you I'll be very disappointed in you.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:59 pm

Christian, Pagan and Viking are NOT genres. They're just themes.

My vote goes out to Progressive, obviously.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:00 pm

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Christian, Pagan and Viking are NOT genres. They're just themes.

My vote goes out to Progressive, obviously.
Thats true
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:04 pm

Also, the Core genres and Nu Metal are not Metal either.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:17 pm

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Also, the Core genres and Nu Metal are not Metal either.

"Nu metal is a sub-genre of heavy metal that emerged in the mid-1990s which combines grunge music,[1] alternative metal, funk metal, hip hop, and various other heavy metal influences such as industrial, groove and thrash. [2]"


As I've said before, I've defended power metal countless number of times when people say, "Oh, that shit isn't metal." Yeah? Well, please enlighten me. What is it? It doesn't sound like country to me. It ain't rap.....I do believe it would be metal. Albeit, a subgenre that you might not care for, but that doesn't make it any less metal.

The same goes here. You might not like it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a type of metal.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:45 pm

PFFT. That's Wiki-bloody-pedia. Anyone can edit that.
Bugger off. So what I have an opinion that Nu Metal isn't actually Metal.

It's Alternative Metal mixed with Funk and Rap.
Alternative Metal basically = Alternative to Metal, thus meaning it cannot be Metal.

If you wanna play Wiki definitions:
Heavy metal (often referred to simply as metal) is a genre of rock music[1] that developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s, largely in England and the United States.[2] With roots in blues-rock and psychedelic rock, the bands that created heavy metal developed a thick, massive sound, characterized by highly amplified distortion, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats, and overall loudness. Heavy metal lyrics and performance styles are generally associated with masculinity and machismo.

Where are the Solos and emphatic beats in Nu Metal? Nowhere. So really, Wiki contradicts itself in calling Nu Metal part of Heavy Metal.

Each Subgenre of Heavy Metal takes from those characteristics, whereas Nu Metal does not.

Think about this, you're actually comparing Nu Metal to Power Metal. That doesn't seen kind of stupid to you?

Anyway, to finish it, Slipknot = Not Metal. Limp Bizkit = Not Metal. KoRn = Not Metal (yet I don't mind them) Oh, and Disturbed aren't even Nu Metal to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:57 am

Progressive Metal here.
If you think about it, progressive is opening every closed door and allowing yourself the possibility for ANYTHING.
Technically speaking, most metal bands have been progressive now and then. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:02 am

After power metal, melodeath (Norther, Amon Amarth, Insomnium, etc) is probably my favorite, with viking/folk metal at third.

Although viking metal is really just black metal or melodeath with mild folk melodies and viking-related themes.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:49 am

Where is Extreme metal?
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:04 am

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Where is Extreme metal?

Technically I tend to view Extreme Metal as a form of far out metal that combines several different genres of metal to the point it has its own signature sound but it doesn't. So I don't think it's a viable name, but it is a viable name, it's really hard to explain. Very Happy

SYL is a good extreme metal example, but in truth they take elements from Industrial, Black, Thrash, Death, Groove, and Melodic Metal.
Fuck, even Progressive, just listen to bloody Satan's Ice Cream Truck. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:04 am

Agree with WinterSon, that's why I didn't put Extreme Metal...

Personally, I consider Nu-Metal, Metalcore and Grindcore as metal genres... But I agree with the fact that Christian, Pagan, Viking Metal are themes... You can have Christian Power Metal as you can have Christian Black Metal...
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:14 am

WinterSon wrote:
infernoRS wrote:
Where is Extreme metal?

Technically I tend to view Extreme Metal as a form of far out metal that combines several different genres of metal to the point it has its own signature sound but it doesn't. So I don't think it's a viable name, but it is a viable name, it's really hard to explain. Very Happy
Yes I know but I still usually count it as a metal genre. Well the vote goes to Death metal then.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:05 am

i was between Metalcore and Melodeath but in the end i went for the first one as it is my fav (aggressive lyrics and all these stuff Razz). I dont really agree that the core genres or nu-metal do not belong in the metal genres. It is true that nu-metal songs dont have solos or riffs but they follow the sound and style of heavy metal or any other subgenre of this kind. I dont think they should be categorised in another genre when there are too many similarities in the sound. Besides there are many bands such as At The Gates or Parkway Drive which are trully related to the metal genre although they are categorised in a Core sub-genre.

Anyway thats always my opinion. I just believe none genre is better than the other. There are just bands who suck and others who sound awesome. Everything else is just a matter of taste.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:18 am

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i was between Metalcore and Melodeath but in the end i went for the first one as it is my fav (aggressive lyrics and all these stuff Razz). I dont really agree that the core genres or nu-metal do not belong in the metal genres. It is true that nu-metal songs dont have solos or riffs but they follow the sound and style of heavy metal or any other subgenre of this kind. I dont think they should be categorised in another genre when there are too many similarities in the sound. Besides there are many bands such as At The Gates or Parkway Drive which are trully related to the metal genre although they are categorised in a Core sub-genre.

Anyway thats always my opinion. I just believe none genre is better than the other. There are just bands who suck and others who sound awesome. Everything else is just a matter of taste.

Sure, your opinion is your own anyway. I still don't think Nu Metal should be considered Metal since It's Alternative Metal and Alternative Metal was never ever actually Metal anyway.
Metalcore actually was never meant to be Metal. Hell, even Killswitch Engage know that when they've said in several interviews, they take influence from Metal but were never actually Metal. Though, I would consider them actually Metal.

Anyway, At The Gates? CORE?!!?!?!??!?! -_-
At The Gates are Melodic Death Metal in it's purest form, never core. They were doing Melodic Death Metal before In Flames, Carcass and Dark Tranquillity.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:39 am

Damn it. Maybe I should read those nominees more carefully next time... I didn't notice melodic death metal lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:28 pm

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NightwalkerRicku wrote:
i was between Metalcore and Melodeath but in the end i went for the first one as it is my fav (aggressive lyrics and all these stuff Razz). I dont really agree that the core genres or nu-metal do not belong in the metal genres. It is true that nu-metal songs dont have solos or riffs but they follow the sound and style of heavy metal or any other subgenre of this kind. I dont think they should be categorised in another genre when there are too many similarities in the sound. Besides there are many bands such as At The Gates or Parkway Drive which are trully related to the metal genre although they are categorised in a Core sub-genre.

Anyway thats always my opinion. I just believe none genre is better than the other. There are just bands who suck and others who sound awesome. Everything else is just a matter of taste.

Sure, your opinion is your own anyway. I still don't think Nu Metal should be considered Metal since It's Alternative Metal and Alternative Metal was never ever actually Metal anyway.
Metalcore actually was never meant to be Metal. Hell, even Killswitch Engage know that when they've said in several interviews, they take influence from Metal but were never actually Metal. Though, I would consider them actually Metal.

Anyway, At The Gates? CORE?!!?!?!??!?! -_-
At The Gates are Melodic Death Metal in it's purest form, never core. They were doing Melodic Death Metal before In Flames, Carcass and Dark Tranquillity.

I agree, At the Gates is pure Melodic Death Metal.
The only thing that I despise about Metalcore really are its use of the most annoying Clean vocals in the world. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:30 pm

Metallhead123 wrote:
NightwalkerRicku wrote:
i was between Metalcore and Melodeath but in the end i went for the first one as it is my fav (aggressive lyrics and all these stuff Razz). I dont really agree that the core genres or nu-metal do not belong in the metal genres. It is true that nu-metal songs dont have solos or riffs but they follow the sound and style of heavy metal or any other subgenre of this kind. I dont think they should be categorised in another genre when there are too many similarities in the sound. Besides there are many bands such as At The Gates or Parkway Drive which are trully related to the metal genre although they are categorised in a Core sub-genre.

Anyway thats always my opinion. I just believe none genre is better than the other. There are just bands who suck and others who sound awesome. Everything else is just a matter of taste.

Sure, your opinion is your own anyway. I still don't think Nu Metal should be considered Metal since It's Alternative Metal and Alternative Metal was never ever actually Metal anyway.
Metalcore actually was never meant to be Metal. Hell, even Killswitch Engage know that when they've said in several interviews, they take influence from Metal but were never actually Metal. Though, I would consider them actually Metal.

Anyway, At The Gates? CORE?!!?!?!??!?! -_-
At The Gates are Melodic Death Metal in it's purest form, never core. They were doing Melodic Death Metal before In Flames, Carcass and Dark Tranquillity.

Damn ive written At The Gates over there?.... sorry i wanted to say All That Remains dunno how that came.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:21 pm

infernoRS wrote:
Where is Extreme metal?
Death, Black, and Thrash are up there
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:09 pm

crimsonblade wrote:
infernoRS wrote:
Where is Extreme metal?
Death, Black, and Thrash are up there
I can't vote all of them;) It's needless to choose between those genres... I voted already on Death but it could have been Progressive or Melodic death as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:41 pm

infernoRS wrote:
Damn it. Maybe I should read those nominees more carefully next time... I didn't notice melodic death metal lol!

There was a LOT of nominees... It's ok you didn't read them all!!
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:35 am

Grindcore branched off from death metal...
Just because it doesn't have "metal" at the end doesn't automatically make it bad...
God, it's amazing how many people just assume 'core genres are automatically bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:11 am

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Grindcore branched off from death metal...
Just because it doesn't have "metal" at the end doesn't automatically make it bad...
God, it's amazing how many people just assume 'core genres are automatically bad.

It's a trend nowadays.


Death and Thrash metal definitly, with Prog coming in on a third place just because of Control Denied's Fragile Art of Existence. Gotta love Tim+Chuck combo.


Btw, aren't Rap Metal and Nu-Metal the same thing? Slipknot and Limp Bizkit being considered Nu-Metal rap alot in their songs so wouldn't they also be called Rap Metal because of it?
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:06 pm

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AJ190 wrote:
Grindcore branched off from death metal...
Just because it doesn't have "metal" at the end doesn't automatically make it bad...
God, it's amazing how many people just assume 'core genres are automatically bad.

It's a trend nowadays.


Death and Thrash metal definitly, with Prog coming in on a third place just because of Control Denied's Fragile Art of Existence. Gotta love Tim+Chuck combo.


Btw, aren't Rap Metal and Nu-Metal the same thing? Slipknot and Limp Bizkit being considered Nu-Metal rap alot in their songs so wouldn't they also be called Rap Metal because of it?

Rap Metal is just rap influenced.
Nu-Metal takes influence from hip hop, rap, alternative, and whatever. In a way it's a poor-ear's form of progressive metal without the complexities.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal Genre (Without Power Metal)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:17 pm

Rap Metal is Rap on a Metal soundtrack... Nu-Metal is more advanced... It is a mix of Rapcore and Alternative Metal.
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